S2E23: How We Return to Holistic Women's Wellness: Yoni Steaming with Kit Maloney

About this episode:

In this episode, Kit Maloney—owner of Kitara and women’s health and wellness specialist with over 20 years of experience—shares the benefits of the practice of yoni steaming. She explains how this practice can provide aid for postpartum recovery, menstrual cramps, and fibroids. Kit helps us to see the benefits of reconnecting with this earth-based medicine and the need to honor the wisdom passed down through generations.

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Emily Race-Newmark: . [00:00:00] Welcome to This is How We Care, where we look at what it means to embody care, not as an individual practice, but a collective one, and to see what kind of world emerges from this place.

Thank you for being here. I am your host, Emily Race. 

Today's conversation looks at the practice of yoni steaming, also known as vaginal steaming, and explores this as both an ancient traditional and re emerging women's health practice. 

Whether you've heard of this before, tried it yourself, or are furrowing your brow in confusion, this conversation aims to be a welcoming starting point, not only to talk through some of the basic 101 around Yoni Steaming itself, what it can support, its historical roots, but also to explore how this may fit into a more holistic, inclusive, and care centric vision for health, that is empowering for those who practice it, and can bring all of us back into a mindset of cyclical awareness and orientation in our lives.

I'll hand it over to our guest, Kit Maloney, to begin by defining some of the [00:01:00] basics.

Kit Maloney: Yoni steaming in its most basic is sitting safely, kneeling in child's pose, squatting safely over heated water. Then we add in a lot of different considerations beyond that. Particularly, herbs. Different herbs are usually used to support the person who's steaming with particular intentions.

Different herbs for postpartum than say for cramps, or for infections, or for fibroids—naming a few different reasons why one might want to steam. 

But basically, you're sitting your womb, your yoni, over heated water. And the reason for it is because the root cause of so many of menstrual and uterine and womb ailments is stagnation.

 The way in which yoni steaming is believed to work is that the steam paired with [00:02:00] the medicine of the herbs is helping that particular body to alleviate any stagnation that is causing these issues. 

So stagnation could be the reason for cramps. Cramping is actually a really incredible tool that the uterus has amongst her toolkit.

We do not like experiencing it, but she's not doing it in a mean spirited way. She's using that tool to aid us in releasing something that is no longer of service. Now, if we can come to her with the gentleness of steam and help loosen things, then she doesn't need to use that tool of cramping to the same degree, or we fully release and therefore there's no need to use it at all.

And stagnation over many years accumulates into the fibroids and the cysts. And the issues with length of cycle. 

So really, everything that we're working [00:03:00] with is about how do we alleviate the stagnation. 

Emily Race-Newmark: You just heard from Kit Maloney, who's been in the world of women's health and wellness for over 20 years. Over the past two decades, she's been an academic, entrepreneur, victim advocate, and pleasure activist.

In a moment, she'll share a bit about her journey of discovering Yoni Steaming, some of the initial skepticism that came up for her around this, and then what eventually led her to starting Kitara, a company that offers beautifully designed and expertly crafted products and services for safe, easy, and effective Yoni Steaming at home.

We originally recorded this conversation in October of 2023.

Kit Maloney: Since I was a little girl, I remember being very aware of being a girl and really wanting that to be an opportunity, but seeing ways in which in our culture, there was some disenfranchisement of that reality.

I actually went [00:04:00] off to college really clear that I wanted to be involved with supporting the end of sexual violence on college campuses. I was very concerned about the prevalence of sexual violence on college campus and that was the beginning of some intentional victim advocacy work that really shaped my college career and led me to get a master's in gender and social policy to be really focused on how I might be of service to women in my community and the global community on issues related to embodiment and health and healing. 

 I stepped out of that space for a little while right after grad school, really to tend to myself and tend to some of the heaviness that I had gone through along that journey in time. 

 I was working for a great company, but completely outside of the women's health space, but in the entrepreneurial space—interestingly enough.[00:05:00] 

And I had this moment after a couple of years there that I realized it was absolutely time for me to refocus my heart and energy on women's health and wellness. But how did I want to do that? And I didn't want to go back to my days being rooted in violence all day, every day.

 I actually found myself intuitively in this exercise of visioning the world without violence against women and without sexual violence. In that world, there was a celebration of women's sexual pleasure. And that's really what I saw, the reverence for our bodies, and the reverence for our orgasms, and the reverence for our sensuality as well as our sexuality and our pleasure.

About now five years ago, I found myself at a pleasure workshop. And at that workshop, there were women talking about yoni steaming. 

And I had this really interesting experience where I got really judgy [00:06:00] and skeptical.

Emily Race-Newmark: Ah, [Laughter] how funny.

Kit Maloney: [ And Laughter] And really like, "Oh guys, this is too weird. This is why people think we're out there. Da da da da da."

And I was driving home, it was about a half an hour's drive home, and I just thankfully caught the thought pattern here and really was looking at it and able to see that this was conditioning. And as I say, patriarchy's grasp can be very strong.

Here I am now 20 years down this journey. I still have my internalized patriarchy's voice. I think I audibly started laughing driving in my car about just the hilarity of me bringing judgment to this women's practice, ancient women's wisdom that, I didn't yet know anything about.

And so that was this intentional moment of shifting my skepticism to curiosity. 

 I found a practitioner who was highly recommended to me, and I did a yoni steam the [00:07:00] next week. And that literally changed my life, considering now the work I do in the world is all about supporting yoni steaming.

 It was this opportunity to connect with my body as a female body, as a body that holds a womb in a healing way that was so gentle, so up to me to navigate in guidance with a practitioner, but not in any sort of hierarchy between them and me. It was so soft and considerate of the elements.

Kit Maloney:  It really just helped me further shed certainly a layer, if not many layers of trauma and connecting to my sense of divine feminine in a way that was so profound that I had to sit in the car afterwards for an hour. It was just amazing to me that I hadn't known how a practice could be both so simple, both so gentle and so profound. 

And so I started steaming at home after that [00:08:00] point. And what happened was I started realizing on my next bleed, which happened to be about three weeks later that I had no premenstrual symptoms. I just couldn't get over that because I had been somebody for the last 20 years who had mild to moderate symptoms, but definitely symptoms— lower back pain in particular. And I didn't. 

And that's when I really started studying. Realizing how quickly the steaming was benefiting my cycle and my bleeds got me wanting to learn a lot more about this practice. 

My primary teacher is Kelly Garza of Steamy Chick, whom I highly recommend and is a wonderful resource. I took all of her courses. 

And I had a couple of moments actually where I was steaming at home with various sort of makeshift setups and finally decided that I wanted to invest in some products, mainly a seat that would allow me to steam at home with more safety and ease. I set off to make myself [00:09:00] a stool. And in the journey of making myself a stool, decided that I would see if others wanted them too.

I launched Kitara at the end of 2019, so that we could be a resource for people who wanted intentionally made, well-crafted products and services for steaming safely at home. we have seats and pots and burners and herbs and all the things that you need to do that.

Emily Race-Newmark: And they are stunningly beautiful. 

Kit Maloney: Thank you. 

Emily Race-Newmark: They're really well made and really just beautiful. 

For context, I actually have never done a yoni steam and I'd never heard about it until, maybe I've heard whispers of it actually, but I didn't really grasp onto it until early postpartum when my doula or midwife, someone mentioned that would be an option.

And I did feel a bit confronted by it. It just felt so foreign and scary. And actually, even I spoke with my husband, he's like, "Is that dangerous?"

 The fear around that. So I'm sure we could unpack that that's probably all part of the same conditioning. 

 I'm really excited after this pregnancy because It just [00:10:00] sounds like it's such a transformational experience. So my questions will come from that place as someone who hasn't tried it.

And I think that we will have listeners who maybe have never experienced a yoni steam and others who may have. And so we can speak to both perspectives. But with that in the background, let's go through the 101. 

You mentioned a practitioner, is that always the case? Walk us through that whole process?

Kit Maloney: I actually like to use this analogy with yoga because many of us are familiar with yoga and we can remember back to that first time that there's a ping and you're like, "Okay, I actually really do want to try this."

Usually you go down to a local studio and you introduce yourself to a teacher and you say it's your first class, right? And they look after you and your body and they ask you a series of screening questions to make sure that this class is going to be safe for you and give you a little bit extra care and guidance along the way. 

This is very similar.  

It is this wonderful practice, yoni steaming, that you can do at home, you can do with yourself. And a great practitioner is going to be holding that space for your safety, for the highest [00:11:00] healing, as well as connecting you back to yourself as ultimate guide.

Your reason for steaming is going to be very much guiding how often you're going to steam, what herbs you're going to steam with, how long you're going to steam for, and what days of your cycle you're going to steam.

 There, of course, are ways to figure this out, and working with a trained and trusted practitioner is often the best way. 

Emily Race-Newmark: Let's talk about timing. Is there something that we should be mindful of?

Kit Maloney: For postpartum in particular, it's usually going to be the recommendation that as you stop bleeding fresh red blood from open uterine arteries, you then are safe to steam. And steaming for 30 days tends to be the recommendation.

Now I have found that a lot is going on in postpartum. I knew this and gave many consultations before I was ever postpartum. So it is very easy, if not inevitable, that you're going to miss a day or two or three.

And so it's about giving yourself [00:12:00] the right amount of steams for you, your body, your life at that time in that early window. The reason you don't steam perpetuity is because those 30 steams are going to be enough to fully help cleanse. And then we want to let the body come back into itself, its own rhythms and allow itself to start bleeding again with a menstrual cycle at the most aligned time, which is usually somewhere between 9 and 13 months after postpartum. 

Once your period comes back, then you can steam with the schedule that reflects what you're working with in terms of your monthly cycle.

Emily Race-Newmark: Okay. So what I'm hearing with the monthly cycle considerations is dependent on what you're looking to work with or work through. I later learned not recommended to steam after ovulation or some period if you're trying to conceive.

Kit Maloney: Yes. So the reason steaming is generally considered effective for fertility is because first and foremost steaming is helping you to optimize your menstrual cycle. And if you have an [00:13:00] optimal menstrual cycle, you're optimizing your fertility. 

When you're steaming for fertility, you're actually going to be first in consideration of what's coming up for you in your menstrual cycle.

Some folks have short and erratic cycles—t hese are under 27 days and can sometimes be 21 days. And then the next one's 26. Tends to be very common in late thirties and early forties in particular. If you're steaming with fertility as a focal point, you're going to be steaming in a way that's really supporting the strengthening of the uterus, the consistency of the monthly cycle, and lengthening that cycle consistently back toward the 28 days. 

That's going to involve different herbs and different days of steaming than if you're coming to fertility with really long cycles and a ton of stagnation and menstrual cramps. You're having cycles that are 35, 40, 45 days long. You're going to be using different herbs. You're going to be steaming on different days, but you're still going to be steaming for fertility. This is in the preparation mode.

And then you go into the [00:14:00] active conception mode where you're either trying through intercourse with a partner or you're doing a fertility treatment, and because the steaming is helping to release stagnation from the uterus, you want to be mindful of that.

So you can steam during the follicular or from when your bleed has stopped until you ovulate in this window of active conception, but then you wouldn't steam after. Because you want that womb to stay safe and nourishing, and you're not looking to release anything. 

Emily Race-Newmark: Beautiful. I think you've given a nice overview of some of the reasons why folks may come to find yoni steaming as a practice for them. Is there anything else you wanted to mention in terms of like, use cases before we move on? 

Kit Maloney: It's a beautiful embodiment practice and so we do see more and more women coming to it for connecting to the body after trauma, connecting to the body as they transition through menopause. It can be very helpful in being a holistic modality to cleanse yeast [00:15:00] infections as well. 

Emily Race-Newmark: Okay. So now the other thing I'd love for you to speak to is to talk to us about the cultural origins of yoni steaming. Is there one particular culture this comes from, or where's the origin, where's the history?

Kit Maloney: It's such a beautiful question and such an important one. And what I will say is that it is multifaceted and it includes a lot of really important things to name and to think through. One, very celebratory component of this, is that we can see evidence of yoni steaming all over the globe.

If we go far enough back, this is bloodline ancestral medicine for us all to remember. 

Kelly Garza, who I mentioned earlier, she has a beautiful map on her website that helps you see different ancient texts and case studies that take the evidence of people steaming up in the British Isles, down all across through Europe, Asia, into the Americas and Africa.

And you can just see different ways steaming was happening and for different reasons. 

[00:16:00] What is also, I believe, very important to acknowledge is that a lot of the leadership that's coming at this time to help us remember, reclaim, re engage with this medicine is coming from Indigenous communities, and is coming from African American Black communities in the U.S. who have been passing this medicine down from grandmother to granddaughter, from auntie to niece, where it hasn't been fissured in the way that in other lineages it has been almost completely eradicated.

I don't have anybody in my family alive right now who has steamed.

Many people do, which is so wonderful. I hope to have grandchildren who will say like, "Yeah, my grandmother taught me about that."

But very grateful for those teachers who are teaching us the experiential line of this medicine. Kelly Garza is one of those. And then for my other teachers who are folk practitioners who did learn from their direct line, and they have a very profound [00:17:00] connection to steaming. It is a beautiful thing to be able to work under them as well.

Another piece of this is that yoni seeming is part of the midwifery kit, if you will. So this is a medicine that was really a women's medicine for thousands of years, and an Earth-based medicine. We're using waters and plants and fire, and we're connecting to the body with a ton of reverence, and gentleness and care. 

What happened with institutionalized religion and the demonation of Earth-based medicine was that we lost a lot of this connection to this toolkit.

Emily Race-Newmark: Hey, it's Emily here. 

I just wanted to quickly pause this conversation to let you know that what Kit is about to share, while very important, speaks to both racist and violent practices towards enslaved black women. This is such an important part of our history to understand, but please be aware of what this may bring up in your own body, and depending on your [00:18:00] own experiences of trauma, you may choose to skip ahead a couple of moments if you're not in a place to hear this right now. 

Thank you. I'll hand it back to Kit. 

Kit Maloney: And then even more recently, the onsite of Western gynecology really did a number on everything involved in the midwifery toolkit. 

That history is really important to be in consideration of not to demonize one practice or another, but to just be aware that the origin story of Western gynecology really starts in the antebellum South with white slave owning men doing gynecological practices without anesthetics on enslaved black women, and this is how they learned their surgical practices. Once they figured out how to keep those enslaved women alive, they moved up to the north and they opened the first gynecological clinics and started charging white women for their services. 

I mentioned it for a [00:19:00] number of reasons. One, I think it's important for us to be in awareness of our history, but also, we have this intuitive understanding of this.

When we actually know that it did happen, I think it can help us really process some of the experiences that we have had, whether it's been capital T trauma or not, so many of us have felt unseen, unheard, unvalued in our current system. And when we look back at the origins, we can understand the 'why' there, and we can really help see that this is not about us.

This is about the system that we're in. 

Again, I don't mention this to say, one is necessarily better than the other, but I think an origin of a practice does carry an energetic, significant blueprint to it, and yoni steaming's origin is about referencing the individual woman as the ultimate guide of their body. We're not in a hierarchical scenario that were [00:20:00] often presented with.

Emily Race-Newmark: Wow. There's so much to process in what you share, but also thank you for just illuminating some of the origins. 

We haven't directly connected a parallel to, but I'm sure there is one, is this disconnection that we just have with our sexual organs or our womb in general. I know for myself, and I hear from so many other women that that has taken a lot of effort and time to become more intimately in connection and relationship with those parts of myself.

And even the word 'yoni'. There's other language that we don't necessarily hear from a young age, depending on which cultures we come from. There's something to reclaim in this whole experience. 

Kit Maloney: Yeah, Exactly right. Thank you for that. And the language is so important and we're doing it. We're trying to engage with it. It's messy at times. The origin story of yoni is it's a Hindu word that means 'sacred gateway'. And it's also all encompassing of the clitoris and the vulva and the vaginal canal and the uterus and the fallopian tubes. Everything's included. And that carries [00:21:00] such meaning to me. In English, we have these very clinical words, and vagina is really an extension of a Latin root word that means sheath for, a sword.

And that is very problematic, and carries a very different blueprint.

Emily Race-Newmark: Yeah. 

Kit Maloney: And so it's really good to know these things and they just feel really different in my body when I use them again, not to shame one or really exalt another but it's great to bring this awareness to it.

 In English, we're basically just left with sexual organs or reproductive organs and there's something really lacking by those two options. We all know there's something so much deeper there. 

and 

Laughter Let's hope and hold that this whole language will crack open and expand so that we can speak about our wombs in a way that is way more representative of what they bring us. 

Emily Race-Newmark: Thank you so much for saying that. So we're going to segue to your [00:22:00] vision for the world. You can answer this broadly. You can answer this from the lens of everything that you've been talking about in the work that you do. I'll let you take it from here.

Kit Maloney: Oh, this so good. I love visioning. [Laughter] So what a gift. 

When I really feel into the vision that I hold for the world now, it is this deep, deep reverence for our cycles. And I mean that in the specific sense of the menstrual cycle, this is the cycle that brings us continued life. We've all come from this cycle.

Every single human being is here because of the menstrual cycle. 

To vision a world where that is really celebrated so that those of us who go through menstrual cycles are supported in that journey and really revered for all it takes to [00:23:00] maintain a healthy connection to that cycle.

I see children of all gender identities really just having a lot of connection to the Earth and to the plants and to the cosmos. The cosmos is such a beautiful, magical reminder of our cycles and being able to look up at the sky and note how it shifts and how we cycle through different stars and moons, that connectivity to that type of magic does really remind us of the beauty of humanity. 

Getting ourselves back into our bodies, back into our wombs, our womb space energy, and to our hearts is really the vision that I hold so that we can look after each other in a much deeper way. 

Emily Race-Newmark: Ugh. You literally just blew my mind with that statement that we all come from the menstrual cycle. If you know me, I love cycles. I'm just like, They're everywhere. And everything is cyclical. And we need to know this. And yet, to see that as the beginning of our [00:24:00] creation, and really to honor that regardless of your gender identity feels so paradigm shifting.

 Let's dream a bit about how we might, from a young age, you started to speak about this, but even education feels like something to vision around. What might education look like in your vision?

Kit Maloney: I get asked now more and more regularly, how early on can people steam. 

I now have an almost 17 month old and I hope he just grows up with ubiquitous understanding of what menstrual cycles are and what steaming is. And that herbs and plants and food are medicine.

I'm having a little baby girl in March, and I hope for her and for all of her friends they feel really supported in knowing how their bodies are such an amazing asset to them and also really how to understand them and care for them. 

 I've been in this world of women's [00:25:00] advocacy and health and wellness for now, almost 25 years. And I was in my thirties before I fully understood the four phases of the cycle and how I could exercise in different parts of those phases to support myself. How I could eat differently, why my sexuality seemed to fluctuate throughout the month, that everything started to click into place.

To raise a whole generation of understanding, not just that girls are going to get their periods, and here are the products to use, but really to have it woven into discussion of like, "I'm in filicular ovulating or resting because here's luteal and I'm bleeding."

the rest that we can claim while we're bleeding, the receptivity that is such an important thing to be in balance with as we are such givers, but the only way for that to really come from true alignment is to have it in balance with our ability to [00:26:00] receive. The bleeding time is a really particularly beautiful invitation for us to consider how we might be able to receive more support as something that is a really actually amazing gift to give yourself and to others. 

Hopefully my children, well, they're going to know about yoni steaming, but whatever they're learning about, they can just skip over that skepticism or that patriarchy's voice because it will be intertwined already into their understanding and appreciation of bodies and of nature. 

Emily Race-Newmark: I need to double tap into what it would actually feel like and look like to see a culture where we are honoring the bleeding phase, and the rest that comes with that. This to me would be so radical and so needed, you've been in the entrepreneurial world, and I think about corporate America where to rest is like, "Nope, that goes against productivity. We may not rest." 

I even imagine a workplace where, let's say you could actually take the time off when you're bleeding, but then I can almost hear immediately the resistance to that being, "Well, if you took a week off, then we can't [00:27:00] keep producing."

Can we just dream around what's the alternative? 

Kit Maloney: I love this so much and it brings up for me like, I've got some deep layers of internalized capitalism. So I'm very much working on this. A friend of mine reflected to me a couple of years ago like, "Even when you're trying to vision this, Kit, you really can't shift your north star of this conversation from productivity," and I'm like, "kind of fair."

 So calling myself out on that. I will also say that menstruating people who are paying attention to how to care for their cycle, resting when you're bleeding, taking these awesome out-there-in-the-world opportunities when you're ovulating and everything in between, they're actually going to be much more productive workers. 

Emily Race-Newmark: Right. Right. 

Kit Maloney: Healthier, more connected, more intuitive, more in flow. So it's not going to look like that necessarily if you take a 24 hour snapshot, but if you take a 28 day snapshot, you are going to see a very different level [Laughter] that [00:28:00] would provide the data to show that we really should be allowing people to work in these 28 ish day cycles, rather than this 24 hour one.

But I'm up for visioning beyond that, because I'm still stuck in productivity being the goal. 

Emily Race-Newmark: I get that. I'm a Capricorn. Everything's about achievement. I can acknowledge that we are also in a transitionary time, I think, collectively. We're acknowledging these systems are failing us, these old paradigms do not work anymore.

And yet, we have to blend and marry these different ways of being together. It's not just such as black or white. And it will never be one size fits all either. 

One thing that really resonated with me is when you shifted the focus from 24 hour cycle to 28 day cycle. What are some other framings of time that become more liberatory in just that framing itself? 

As an example, my husband, I learned that he's a reflector from the human design model, which I'm still learning about. The thing that we really sunk into is the fact that when it comes to making major life decisions, he needs a full moon cycle to get clear. And I'm like, "That is so you, [00:29:00] and how funny, you're not a woman, and yet you have a cycle. You follow the cycle."

It really went with my personal theory, which is not just mine, but just the fact that we all have a cycle. It's not just women and menstrual cycles to look at, but we all could benefit from cyclical thinking and living. So I'm just going to add that. And if you have something to jump in. 

Kit Maloney: Oh my gosh, I love that. I love that too. I've read some really beautiful pieces around just making sure that as women reclaim and connect to the moon that we also hold a lot of space for all people to connect to the moon and to that lunar cycle. That's such a beautiful, tangible example.

 If I'm working with somebody and they're looking at me like, "I should rest when I'm bleeding," but like, " that's just not the way my life is structured right now. My work is structured."

Something that can be helpful is to absolutely acknowledge that. And sometimes, your cycle is going to shift and you're going to have booked a really stressful thing on a day that you're bleeding. And that we can approach with a lot of compassion and understanding and [00:30:00] do our best.

On the other hand sort of that 80 20 rule. Try to say, most of the time I'm going to give myself those first two days of bleeding to really intentionally slow down. 

A little sort of trick, if you will, is that there is a purpose here, in that if you have a big presentation, you often make sure that you get a really good night's sleep before it.

If you really want to optimize your health as a menstruating person, if you're able to tend to yourself in those first two days bleeding, that is the good night's sleep before a presentation. Everything you're doing in those two days is setting yourself up for a much healthier bleed the next cycle.

 That sort of pragmatic, purposeful awareness can often be the permission that's needed to slow down in those times. And is again, connecting us to that 28 day patterning rather than the [00:31:00] 24. 

Emily Race-Newmark: I've had that reframe over the years where it's like, "Oh, I got my cycle started today. And you know what? I'm actually going to cancel this thing, or I'm going to allow myself the grace of shifting plans."

 To bring it back to your comment around productivity still being the orientation, I think there's something to connect back to what a cycle is in itself.

For me. I see it as a cycle of creation, of life and death within it. I almost see in this vision that we're now co weaving, it's less about only the output, only the productivity but rather, how can we also honor death? Culturally. How can we honor things that are ending? 

There's almost a new orientation around what we're valuing.

Kit Maloney: Oh, no, I think it's so beautiful. It's so beautiful. And we can see the fear of all cycles, very much, including the menstrual cycle, reflected in our fear of death in this culture. We don't have reverence for death. We see it as the penultimate thing to avoid at all costs, and to oftentimes, really move through without facing.

Emily Race-Newmark: That shit will [00:32:00] catch up to you later. I can attest. 

Kit Maloney: Yeah, it just catches up and then it comes back lot rougher [Laughter] than it did every time. 

Emily Race-Newmark: Totally. I did want to envision a different type of healthcare or health system. 

What would that look like, and how would your vision imagine that differently?

Kit Maloney: A couple of different ways. One, we would really hold health as our focal point. That would be what we champion. 

We would restructure ease and resources around nourishing food. Around making sure people had great sleep, and an appreciation of sleep. 

It would not be exalted to stay up all night to get a project done.That would be seen as like, "Oh no, you have a sleep disorder, rather than "you should have a promotion". 

Exercise, sexuality, these things that really support our health would be ubiquitous to how we live our days and [00:33:00] supported by our systems and rituals. 

We would be addressing root cause, always . It wouldn't make sense to us to think we had had a successful appointment with any type of healer if all they were offering us was symptom management. We would start to see that as somebody you wouldn't want to go back to because they just didn't get it.

Didn't make any sense. And that would really shift so that everything is about how do we get you back to health? What is the root cause blocking you from that? 

Emily Race-Newmark: Mm. 

Kit Maloney: That's what I would like to see. 

Emily Race-Newmark: Beautiful. Thank you. I do want to transition us to the action piece of the conversation, one being an immediate action folks could take in this moment if they were to pause the podcast.

What would that be that would support everything that you were sharing? 

Kit Maloney: An immediate action point, whether you've done it many times this week, or never in your life, is to put your hand, one hand on your heart, one hand on your womb space or your lower abdomen and breathe. 

And the [00:34:00] invitation there is to do it intentionally for 10 minutes. That will shift you and that will potentially shift the world if we all do that more regularly.

Emily Race-Newmark: Beautiful. Thank you. For everything, for all your offering, all the ways you're leading, and leading by example, being one of those. I am so grateful to be connected to you and for this conversation we had today. Thank you so much.

Kit Maloney: Thank you.

Emily Race-Newmark: Thank you so much for listening to this conversation. We hope that it opened up a new vision of possibility for you. If you want to hear more from Kit or are interested in checking out Kitara's products and services, you can follow them on Instagram @ byKitara or visit their website kitaralove.com. 

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This episode was produced by me, Emily Race, co produced by Kimberly Anne, with final editing by Andrew Salamone, and music by Eric Weisberg.

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